Wiz: Throughout their childhood, Crona was abused by their mother, Medusa, a witch obsessed with the legendary Kishin. Wiz: It's incredibly powerful, causing internal damage to foes and making Ragnarok vibrate to increase his cutting power. Ah yes, Snake blitzes Batman because he has moved at supersonic speed before. LoboGuara5bruxaria/My Favorites Death Battles, Protagonist vs Antagonist themed Death Battles, Anti-Hero vs Villain themed Death Battles, symbiotes really need to stop picking fights with pink-haired anime characters, Danny Phantom VS American Dragon Jake Long, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Battle Royale, https://deathbattle.fandom.com/wiki/Venom_VS_Crona?oldid=1124108. Wiz: This "Madness" is a corruptive effect that causes targeted variants of delusion or obsession, often spread as a wavelength. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Yeah, that is what matters, hence why we can use it, it's an official product published by Konami as a remake of an older game that they published as well. Its good thing that those are not outliers, both he, Big Boss, as well as other characters in the series that they scale to have many feats on that level outside of Twin Snakes, i can post them if you want, they cannot all be outliers lol, they were never meant to be close to peak human, he was always able to fight extreme superhumans head-on, in fact, that is how young Big Boss beat Volgin, in fact with just one slam he nearly one-shotted guy who can tank RPG while weakend, Boss stomped him with her sheer strength as well, and Big Boss later beat her, that is how he later beat Gene, or how Venom was stomping Skulls and Quiet, Snake was never really that much about stealth against main bad guys really, sure he used skills to help him in those fights, not just his stats but he did so in Twin Snakes as well. Wiz: And it's our job to analyze their weapons, armor, and skills to find out who would win... a Death Battle. Boomstick: And yes, that's considering the weird size and shape of the moon. Crona's own blood is, in fact, this same Black Blood, which they can remotely control. Popup: While Venom has resisted Ghost Rider's Penance Stare, it does not necessarily mean he's immune to all psychic related attacks and would resist Crona's Madness Wavelength. The mouths on each sword release their devastating Scream Resonance inside and the symbiote succumbs to the effects, before all three swords are swung, unleashing an extremely powerful wave of sound into Venom point blank. Wiz: Oh, don't worry, aside from being a horrible mass murderer, Venom's stories are completely wholesome. If you give Batman the same gear as Snake he'd do it just fine. Wiz: With this weapon at their side, Crona set out on a quest to become a Kishin, which required quite a lot of homicide. Snake has many years of experience and knowledge on Metal Gears. Because he is much slower than him. They can use black blood to create wings, thorny vines, all kinds of weapons. Additionally, Venom's victories over Dark Carnage and Grendel required outside help or extenuating circumstances. With the same setup as Snake? Solid Snake has a grenade launcher, rocket launcher, and the anti material rifle from MGS4. Are we sure this episode is rated "E" for everyone, or do we need to start blurrin' stuff? ", Both battles end with the last line of dialogue being "I hate you.". Kiev, for instance. (sometimes referred to as just "Death Battle" or "DEATH BATTLE") is a popular web-based video show hosted by Wizard (voiced by Ben B. Boomstick: Normally, this just makes people feel sorry for themselves, like Wiz on Tinder. And what I said was GENERALLY snake's feats are more grounded than what is seen in twin snakes. Venom: Ah, lucky day! Depressed because Snake can shake nearly a mile wide ships with a punch? Snake consistently isn't worth much to consider to Bruce in a up and up fight beyond his gear. Kojima also never said that if he did not make it its not canon, that is something someone made up, in fact, Kojima was heavily involved in Twin Snakes as you can see in the link i posted above, on the second page, a post made by Tony, you can read all about it there, Tony completely debunked that misconception about Kojima not considering it canon, that is in fact why he chose to use Twin Snakes for Metal Gear 4, further making clear that it is canon since he considers it canon if he did not, there were many other things he could do instead of using Twin Snakes for it, it was choice. The combatants are a person bonded with a symbiote and a pink-haired anime character. Lol Bruce would EMP him then one shot him and then go on to fight tougher opponents like Scarecrow. Wiz: In ancient times, a demonic being known as the Kishin ravaged humanity, nearly driving all of mankind into the depths of madness. Seems legit to me brah. However, Crona inherited Asura's abilities, which trump them when given similar leeway. What the hell is wrong with that moon?! Wiz: Even then, Medusa's plan ultimately succeeded. You know, that kinda sounds like something you'd do, Wiz. Now Crona can turn their entire body into goop, and the slightest touch can inflict Madness. Hey, don't look at me, all the goop aliens were sayin' it. Yeah, imagine seeing this guy flying outside your window. Wiz: In its exile, the symbiote underwent a number of misadventures which firmly shaped its personality. @goldie_pegasus: .....Yes he is lol. They even teamed up every so often. Crona stirs and Ragnarok shapeshifts into wings, forming the True Black Dragon. With Ragnarok glowing, they unleash a wave of concentrated sound that streaks across the floor towards their opponent. They've had their shit kicked in plenty of times, and their hardened Black Blood can only block so much. Calcite Calcite is the most common form of calcium carbonate. To identify a venomous snake in the U.S., look for varying color patterns, since most solid-colored are harmless. Not even Nick wanked Snake that much. But anyone who ACTUALLY is reading Batman comics on the regular know he cannot get a higher win than that without prep. Eddie looks back, and a black goo wholly covers the body of the journalist as he walks towards the Black Blood partners. Lucy and Crona start off by holding their respective opponents in the air and dealing a killing attack that would end the match if not for their opponents' healing and regenerative abilities. The kishin-to-be shakes him off and swiftly impales him on one sword before sending him back down with three wave projectiles, each one hitting the symbiote. Snake stomps, he simply has much better stats, from easily dodging mach 20 rail gun in old age while suffering a seizure, making supersonic bullets look like snails, to beating hypersonic speedster like Grey Fox or Ocelot lightning timing, he even had an entire fight with Ocelot in third of a second and has ridden a missile Dante style, The same is for strength, he can make shockwaves that shaked 500-ton metal gear, he is even strong enough to make visible shockwaves, all feats far above Batman, He is also more skilled, he beat people like Fox who would fodderize an army of Batmans. Despite their life being nothing but destruction, Crona was the one who ultimately saved the world. The snake has a lot better quantifiable speed and striking feats, as well as better skill feats. Exercising his shapeshifting ability, Venom gains more distance to shoot more webbing. these skills comparison i find always to be more of a subjective thing and just a headache to argue, lol, @mee09: When he and Luqid punched each other in the face, shockwave they produced shaked metal gear bellow them, one they were standing on, it was not direct punch, they did not even touch metal gear itself, what shaked it was just shockwave, and the shockwave is much weaker than punch itself, I think red_ruby_petal calculated that their punch there was like a ship crash as well, But if you are talking about visible shockwaves, he did it here. Well, no, they actually became a horrifying monster with all of Spider-Man's powers and then some. You've been the one saying he can't even carry heavy weapons. Drops of green goo cause the pair to turn around and look up where Venom is clinging to the ceiling. @mee09: it is a twin snakes thing, and the less said about twin snakes the better. Crona opens the chapel doors and moonlight shines into the hallway. Hell, even Thanos' girlfriend is scarier than this clown! It is a dark, techno track that represents the dark and creepy natures of both combatants. Faced with the prospect of losing her kingdom, Cleopatra herself committed suicide on August 10, 30 B.C., by allowing a poisonous snake to bite her and her two handmaidens. Wiz; See, even with so much anger, Eddie had a legitimate desire to protect others. Venom was reprised by Adam Wennick, Crona was voiced by Sarah Anne Williams and Ragnarok was voiced by John Van Doren. 1 Interlude 2 Venom 3 Crona 4 Death Battle 5 Results 6 Original Track 7 Trivia (*Cues:Wiz … The symbiote is weakened, exposing Eddie Brock's face and despite the pain, he keeps his eyes open just in time to see Crona appear at the entrance with their swords, back turned. A 3D parody animation featuring a futanari Supergirl with Wonder Woman by Amusteven. Ugh, I hate needles. Boomstick: All of which increased Crona's abilities, especially the Black Blood. He's dodged lasers, and been tracked moving over twenty kilometers in six microseconds while approaching Baba Yaga Castle. Honestly, Snake is more comperable to someone like Spiderman physically, besides in lifting strength of course, than to Batman, not counting speed, where he is good to deal faster than Peter as well, Bruce gets just completely stomped, Honestly Snake is more comperable to someone like Spiderman physically, besides in lifting strenght than Batman, not counting speed, where he is good deal faster than peter. Snake is more superhuman than Deathstroke. Says who? Venom's mouth is seen in place of Ragnarok's mouth, sticking his tongue out, which has a bit of green ooze on it. Specifically, the brain stem and frontal lobes. Wiz: But with the power of friendship, Crona ironically wound up defeating the Kishin once and for all. Boomstick references the outcome of the battles by joking that "these symbiotes really need to stop picking fights with pink-haired anime characters. The symbiote's sinister voice echoes throughout the church, disturbing Crona while Ragnarok looks around. loved metal gear. Boomstick: It's always nice to have a best friend attached to your hip, like me and my shotgun leg. @eredin12: That doesn't appear to be a Shockwave to me. Both also have connections to godlike beings (the symbiote race was created by Knull whilst Crona was made as part of a plan to resurrect Kishin Asura). He used tactics mostly for Metal Gears, which is what he used in Twin Snakes too, he was no match for metal gear physically in Twin Snakes, hence why Fox died in the end, trying to save him, etc, The fact is Snake was not portrayed in Twin Snakes any stronger than in many other materials, that along with fact that Twin Snakes is completely canon( since it was an official remake) makes it completely usable, @professorrespect: Dude I'm gonna assume you don't actually read Batman comics. Let's go with that. The use of Screech Delta obliterates Venom and Eddie's body, leaving behind two souls; one black and grey of the Klyntar and one brown and yellow of Edward Brock. After engaging the base's self-destruct countdown, Solid Snake and Big Boss's phantom fought one on one, and the latter was ultimately killed. They stab Venom as he just recovers and deliver a slashing whirlwind combo. Crona is able to relieve their face of the webbing and with a crazed look in their eyes, they grab their partner's transformed sword state and swings wildly, dodging the projectiles. Batman has standard gear. @professorrespect: Batman has high end feats that would allow him to win 2/10 against a Metal Gear with those things. The same day he published his article, Spidey caught the real killer, who lived right next door to the dude Eddie blamed! Wiz: Despite it all, Eddie and the symbiote have proven they're far more than the dark legacy the Klyntar were intended for. Venom gains the advantage and knocks Crona to the ground. lmao at Snake being comparable to Spiderman physically. (Wiz then notices Boomstick in a paralyzed state with ears bleeding), (No sooner revealing he had gone deaf, Boomstick collapses). Boomstick: Of course, the final nail in Eddie's coffin was the fact that half of Crona's arsenal was sound-based, basically Venom's kryptonite. You gotta stop with this. The guilt has weighed him down ever since. I've already explained how Snake did it via chaff grenades and focusing on the radar. Yes he has some outliers that are over the top but consistently he is portrayed much closer to peak human overcoming his more powerful enemies through stealth, skill, tactics and wiles. Unfortunately, Venom lacked the power needed to keep up a prolonged fight. They can yank poor Crona around like a puppet. That's madness with a capital "M" by the way. Solid Snake has a grenade launcher, rocket launcher, and the anti material rifle from MGS4. Boomstick: Yeah, Crona matching Black☆Star's speed makes for a pretty clear difference. Snake VS Block for iPhone Free Game for Puzzle Fans Balls VS Blocs is a puzzle app that provides a unique twist on the classic Snake game. He hasn't, accept it. Boomstick: Yeah, he was the coolest rival ever. C60 Fullerene Buckminsterfullerene is a spherical shaped allotrope of carbon discovered in 1985. Boomstick: Damn, no wonder Venom's so messed up in the head. Who would have guessed? The track cover depicts Ragnarok in his sword form embedded partly into a puddle of Black Blood putting up a Thorn Defense. Bruce can do the exact same with the same setup. I almost don't blame him for becoming a supervillain. Crona: I don't think I know how to deal with this situation. Not really. However, while Carnage (the loser) says it in his battle, Crona (the winner) says it in this battle. But one time, he convinced a bunch of other symbiotes that life was meaningless, and they killed themselves. Wiz: Despite their name, Death Academy wasn't exactly a fan. But I don't remember him causing any shockwaves with his punches. Wiz: And while Venom has shown incredible physical strength that puts Spider-Man to shame, he could never compete with nine trillion tons of Mad Blood. But over the years, things kinda calmed down a bit. He's survived Ghost Rider's Penance Stare, he's strong enough to toss a tank hundreds of feet up, and fast enough to take down Spidey 2099, who once caught Mjolnir while it was moving two thousand times the speed of sound. Wiz: Sure, two hundred seventy-five doesn't seem that much more than two hundred forty-four, but decibels increase on a logarithmic rate. Boomstick: Cooking Rags in Black Blood turned him into a brand new weapon that was literally poured into Crona's bloodstream. This is Halloween from The Nightmare Before Christmas can also be heard when Venom recites the lyrics from the song. Wiz: Crona Gorgon was not one of these students. They were perfect, a terror in the night, an unstoppable demon. in this case, the classic snake … How do I pass that down? This time it attaches the sword to a wall. Together, they learned courage, chivalry, unbreakable friendship, you know, all that anime crap. Venom has been affected by Hell Mark and Jean Grey in the past. Wiz: Venom would certainly need a lot of firepower to survive an encounter with the symbiote god... Wiz: At first, the Klyntar symbiotes were seen as a peaceful people, but turns out they were actually living weapons forged by the primordial deity Knull in an attempt to conquer the universe! C70 Fullerene Fullerenes are spherical, cagelike molecules consisting of annelated carbon five - and six rings. The wavelength of Crona's "Mad Blood" specifically causes violent psychosis. @eredin12: I will agree that a prime Snake should be strong enough to maybe stagger a Metal Gear by punching it if he were standing on top of it. For him that's like a 2/10 fight. Generally snake's feats are far more grounded than the nonsense in that game. But okay, cosmic sludge made by alien Satan. Boomstick: Yeah, Ragnarok can absorb the souls of dead people. Wiz: At the beginning of time, in the faraway reaches of space, the Klyntar rose from a living darkness. But anyone who ACTUALLY is reading Batman comics on the regular know he cannot get a higher win than that without prep. He had none at that point, which is what you reference. This monster could only be defeated and sealed away by the God of Death. Not like Snake can at least. Batman does not win this fight. The deafening soundwaves free Crona and slightly effects Venom, who is effected enough that he peels back to expose Eddie's back. A regular guy can barely fire a shotgun if he isn't used to the recoil. This includes traits and memories from other hosts, like Scorpion and Flash Thompson. The reason Snake can use it like he does is because he is superhuman. Popup: While different methods or examples could be implemented to measure Crona's Black Blood flooding a city, all still outperform Venom. Wiz: Venom was certainly a tricky opponent. Boomstick: With an added side effect of a new Madness wavelength that made everyone obsessed with boobs. Wiz: Don't be silly, I only use actual guinea pigs. eh fair enough. This means Crona's sound attack was actually over a thousand times stronger. The Kishin meister stands alone alongside their partner with a grin of pure madness. Ragnarok bursts out from Crona's back and slaps the pink-haired child on the back of their head and grabs them by the hair while chastising them. DEATH BATTLE Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. Popup: Even compared to Spider-Man's reaction speed and Spider Sense, which are somewhat superior to Venom's abilities, scaling to Black☆Star still matches up. But it would be entertaining to watch. The cocoon bursts out as it is cut open by Ragnarok as a broadsword with the mouth in the middle screams. Boomstick: Don't worry! Recall that Venom did gain a notable resistance to sound attacks, so we needed to determine if Crona's sonic waves were great enough to effectively harm him. Even Bruce himself would admit that him vs a Metal Gear should be a mismatch. Lol. Especially a piloted one. Wiz: Though more akin to a screeching Banshee on LSD. Batman won't win a random encounter against someone like Snake. Boomstick: Oh, God. Venom lands back to where the fight started: the now damaged church. He might be able to cause some damage with a Rocket Launcher. Popup: The lasers Black☆Star dodged were bendable using light refraction techniques, indicating they possess attributes of normal light. Wiz: From that point on, Crona and Ragnarok were two halves of the same person, the meek and tortured child firmly attached to their loud and brazen weapon. Wiz: Kid once flew from Nevada to Egypt in less than a minute, and Black☆Star is even faster. Probably Batman, but Snake has some really awesome high ends that don't just involve scaling. Part of Medusa's great experiment included bonding Crona to a weapon, much like the Meisters of Death Academy. Boomstick: It gave him a pretty slick black suit and awesome new powers, but after finding out it was a confused raging psychopathic alien, Pete decided to exorcise it with the power of Christian rock. In contrast, in order to engulf the moon, Crona's sonic waves must've reached over two hundred seventy-five decibels. Crona leaps in the air and cuts away the dark tentacles. With tons of gear, knowledge, assistance, etc etc. In the manga, Crona is referred to with gender neutral terms, translating to they/them pronouns. He pursues and lands hard rapid strikes before dragging them back up into the air. If the snake has a rattle on its tail, it is a venomous rattlesnake! Eddie makes a shield but is still knocked back. He doesn't have a contingency plan for a Metal Gear. Even taking a page out of my favorite book, The Most Dangerous Game, and hunting him on a private island. Fighting off this mind control is extremely difficult, unless you have powers that can directly counter it, such as another symbiote. She and Crona ended up becoming good friends, until they weren't...sort of...eh, it's complicated. Wiz: A wise decision, although ill-timed, as this event would cause the symbiote to finally meet its greatest partner, Edward Brock. ", referencing the lyrics to, This is the fifth episode where the loser was still in the land of the living after losing, as both Eddie's and the Symbiote's soul was still around until they were devoured by Ragnarok, after, This is the fourth episode where the loser has their soul devoured, after, The episode's release date is October 5th, 2020, the battle was likely planned to commemorate the release of. Assuming he even knows how to use one on the same level Snake can. mouth?! Boomstick: Like when he took this giant explosion, or when he survived a sonic scream from some mutant gremlins that shattered all glass within ten miles. Maybe he isn't as fast actually. Batman isn't Deathstroke. So, she used her child as a guinea pig in a bunch of crazy experiments. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Boomstick: Who already blamed Eddie for his wife dying in child-birth! Both also have a history with consuming people's innards (brains and souls in particular) and both hosts are known for having conflicting relationships with their symbiotic partners. Whereas in twin snakes his walking animation might as well be backflips. It bonded to a heroic Kree soldier rescuing refugees, a violent monster who committed genocide, and...apparently Deadpool. Boomstick: Looks like Venom just got Ragna-rocked! Truly a positive effect on people everywhere. A sudden eruption of Black Blood bursts out from Crona's neck and from outside the church, both combatants are launched into the night sky while the dark fluid flows and covers the ground. Snake didn't just have "some grenades" he used chaff variants to stop RAY from targeting him and then used insider knowledge to damage the radar unit. And big ass needles. Crona: (to Maka) Just give up, I'm tired of trying to figure out how to deal with you. Wiz: Although Venom does not possess the Spider-Sense that allows Parker to react in microseconds, he can still keep up with all the usual Spidey gallery. Wiz: With all hope lost, he begged God to take it all away, and got an answer: The symbiote. Snake only done it because he had chaff grenades making it so REX couldn't actually target him. Snake has many years of experience and knowledge on Metal Gears and superhuman physicals that will allow him to get into and get out of situations that Bruce cannot. As Crona gathers themself, they see Venom, who has formed his own demonic wings, charging straight for them with a bladed limb at the ready. A few seconds after Ragnarok crushes Venom's head, Venom shoots webbing into Crona's face, blocking their vision, then capitalizes on Ragnarok's distraction and jumps back at a distance, any serious harm already healed. With two hands together, they seize a single sword and blocks the attack, sending the symbiote back who only cackles in response. Ragnarok, back in original form, snatches both souls and opens his mouth to devour them both in just one bite. Why? Boomstick: Who was a freakin' loser! Though I could only see him doing it once then attempt to blow it up with something else. Boomstick: Eddie was a journalist with the unluckiest backstory ever. They've even gained the respect of the Avengers, and eventually considered Spider-Man a friend.... sort of, it's complicated. Both suffered abuse from their estranged parents and sought acceptance from them (for Eddie, it was his father, Carl Brock, and for Crona, it was their mother, Medusa Gorgon). Venom VS Crona is the 134th episode of DEATH BATTLE!, featuring Venom from Marvel Comics and Crona from the Soul Eater series in a battle between symbiotic partners. But couldn't destroy it and he won't be able to evade the Metal Gear like Snake. Batman can do exactly what Snake could do with the same gear, prep, and information that Snake had. His shapeshifting, camouflage, and multitude of weapons kept Crona off guard. The track for the fight is "Madness Envenom" by Brandon Yates. "Who Would Win" is a podcast that debates battles between fictional characters from the worlds of Comic Books, Sci-Fi, and Fantasy. Caffeine A stimulant found in drinks and used in pharmaceuticals. Boomstick: And Crona's been able to make enough Mad Blood to crush a whole goddamn Ukrainian city!
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