venom snake vs solid snake

The whole "u don't read x" isn't a argument. On the second page of this thread, TourneyMaster explained greatly why Twin Snakes is canon according to Kojima himslef, so even before his incident with Konami it was canon, https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/metal-gear-solid-respect-thread-1900601/?page=2, but its not like any of that even matters now, Konami fired Kojima and his company, so now the only way to even know what is canon is to look at what they published, and since Konami is one who officially published Twin Snakes, later than Metal Gear 2, its official retcon, @professorrespect: Batman doesn't use heavy weaponry like that because he is not strong enough to still be agile while holding them. Bruce can't defeat a Metal Gear with some grenades. The total download size for Nintendo Switch is roughly 345 MB. This is Halloween from The Nightmare Before Christmas can also be heard when Venom recites the lyrics from the song. The reason Snake can use it like he does is because he is superhuman. Crona leaps in the air and cuts away the dark tentacles. As the antithesis of Spider-Man leaps towards the symbiotic duo, Ragnarok bulks up and grabs the Venom symbiote by the neck, keeping the Marvel symbiote at a distance. After the assault, Venom grabs and throws some pews which Ragnarok effortlessly destroys. The "Soul Eater World" moon chuckles creepily as Crona falls back to earth. While they are dazed, Venom takes his chance and charges in, shapeshifting his hand into an axe blade and goes for a decapitation. Wiz: Eventually, the symbiote was discovered by Peter Parker, your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. Both suffered abuse from their estranged parents and sought acceptance from them (for Eddie, it was his father, Carl Brock, and for Crona, it was their mother, Medusa Gorgon). So while Venom does have a hunger for human brains, he'd rather eat the face off a criminal than an innocent person. It can be used to heal wounds, and even harden as a sort of internal armor. Venom has been affected by Hell Mark and Jean Grey in the past. @professorrespect: Batman has high end feats that would allow him to win 2/10 against a Metal Gear with those things. Lucy and Crona start off by holding their respective opponents in the air and dealing a killing attack that would end the match if not for their opponents' healing and regenerative abilities. Crona could reach Mach nine thousand, while Venom only topped out around Mach two thousand. Batman does not win this fight. It is a dark, techno track that represents the dark and creepy natures of both combatants. Eddie begins to reassure himself and the Klyntar responds by healing and covering his face, becoming Venom again. Boomstick: Who was a freakin' loser! Boomstick: Venom's as tough as they come. Together, they learned courage, chivalry, unbreakable friendship, you know, all that anime crap. Wiz: Their mutual hate of Spider-Man caused the symbiote to bond to Eddie like no host ever before. Fighting off this mind control is extremely difficult, unless you have powers that can directly counter it, such as another symbiote. Wiz: Like the meisters, Crona can wield their own souls in combat, amplified by Ragnarok as a technique called "Scream Resonance". Boomstick: Yeah, Ragnarok can absorb the souls of dead people. Boomstick: Like when he took this giant explosion, or when he survived a sonic scream from some mutant gremlins that shattered all glass within ten miles. Crona: I don't think I know how to deal with this situation. How do I pass that down? Not like Snake can at least. Boomstick: Cooking Rags in Black Blood turned him into a brand new weapon that was literally poured into Crona's bloodstream. Aliens, tentacles, and mind control? Afterwards, Venom Snake confronted Solid Snake personally, calling himself Big Boss. But he is fast and agile enough to destroy Metal Gears. This means Crona's sound attack was actually over a thousand times stronger. Boomstick: And yes, that's considering the weird size and shape of the moon. Boomstick: What's up with that mouth when he transforms into a sword? Crona opens the chapel doors and moonlight shines into the hallway. @cheshirescat: Twin snakes is completely canon, its retcon of Metal Gear 2, so its going to be used here, but the funny thing is, that is still false, most of the best feats for Snake come from outside of Twin Snakes, from either his own feats or scalling to Big Boss, For example, the best speed feat Snake has in Twin Snakes is beating Fox but Boss beat Gene outside of Twin Sneaks and Gene is at least just as fast as Fox. Boomstick: You can see where this is going. Crona is able to relieve their face of the webbing and with a crazed look in their eyes, they grab their partner's transformed sword state and swings wildly, dodging the projectiles. The symbiote's sinister voice echoes throughout the church, disturbing Crona while Ragnarok looks around. Snake has survived and come out on top against far worse odds. Boomstick: Apart from Spider-Man's webbing and web-crawling powers, Venom can use shapeshifting to mold his body into cool doo-dads. A few seconds after Ragnarok crushes Venom's head, Venom shoots webbing into Crona's face, blocking their vision, then capitalizes on Ragnarok's distraction and jumps back at a distance, any serious harm already healed. He won't be able to evade a Metal Gear for more than 8-12 seconds. Boomstick: Eddie was a journalist with the unluckiest backstory ever. @professorrespect: Batman doesn't use heavy weaponry like that because he is not strong enough to still be agile while holding them. Honestly, Snake is more comperable to someone like Spiderman physically, besides in lifting strength of course, than to Batman, not counting speed, where he is good to deal faster than Peter as well, Bruce gets just completely stomped, Honestly Snake is more comperable to someone like Spiderman physically, besides in lifting strenght than Batman, not counting speed, where he is good deal faster than peter. With this in mind, Crona must created over nine trillion tons of black blood. Unfortunately, Venom lacked the power needed to keep up a prolonged fight. Singer) and Boomstick (voiced by Chad James) presented by ScrewAttack.The show pits two or more fictional characters from different medias such as movies, comics, manga, television programs, literature, video games, and even â¦ I mean besides fact that it is a DC character? Snake is my preferred character here, but the arguments made earlier are more convincing for the Batman side. @eredin12: twin snakes is, at best, technically canon because it is a remake of the original but wasn't done by the actual creator (and Kojima has said himself if he didn't make it himself then it isn't canon, but then flashbacks in mgs4 came from twin snakes rather than the original but it may have been an issue with the original source rather than a choice). He used tactics mostly for Metal Gears, which is what he used in Twin Snakes too, he was no match for metal gear physically in Twin Snakes, hence why Fox died in the end, trying to save him, etc, The fact is Snake was not portrayed in Twin Snakes any stronger than in many other materials, that along with fact that Twin Snakes is completely canon( since it was an official remake) makes it completely usable, @professorrespect: Dude I'm gonna assume you don't actually read Batman comics. To be honest Batmam probably isn't taking out a Metal Gear even with the Batwing and Batmobile. Snake has 1v1'd Metal Gears and come out on top with far worse gear than what he has here. DEATH BATTLE Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. In the manga, Crona is referred to with gender neutral terms, translating to they/them pronouns. Ah yes, Snake blitzes Batman because he has moved at supersonic speed before. lmao at Snake being comparable to Spiderman physically. Venom lands back to where the fight started: the now damaged church. To identify a venomous snake in the U.S., look for varying color patterns, since most solid-colored are harmless. Venom was reprised by Adam Wennick, Crona was voiced by Sarah Anne Williams and Ragnarok was voiced by John Van Doren. Sub-power of Enhanced Condition. Eddie makes a shield but is still knocked back. Assuming all the...moon's teeth are similar in size and stone, opening this jaw is equivalent to lifting over ten thousand tons. Swords, shields, tendrils, worm monster things, even wings! While absorbing codices does enhance strength, character specific powers and mental imprints from codices burn out over time. But he is fast and agile enough to destroy Metal Gears that have notable and highly skilled pilots. Calcite Calcite is the most common form of calcium carbonate. Sure he can. The basic ingredients of the Venom F5 make for astounding reading: A 6.6-liter twin-turbo V-8 that produces 1,817 hp at 8,000 rpm, and a wicked top speed. Boomstick: Who already blamed Eddie for his wife dying in child-birth! The power to possess combat proficiency, capabilities and knowledge beyond that of a normal member of their species. Solid Snake has a grenade launcher, rocket launcher, and the anti material rifle from MGS4. The guilt has weighed him down ever since. With the same setup as Snake? Popup: The lasers Black☆Star dodged were bendable using light refraction techniques, indicating they possess attributes of normal light. He doesn't have a contingency plan for a Metal Gear. Wiz: But these two take their "friends" even further than that. Crona's own blood is, in fact, this same Black Blood, which they can remotely control. Yeah, that is what matters, hence why we can use it, it's an official product published by Konami as a remake of an older game that they published as well. Snake has many years of experience and knowledge on Metal Gears. Or did she? Wiz: Black Blood being another experiment of hers. Batman won't win a random encounter against someone like Snake. Wiz: Venom was certainly a tricky opponent. C70 Fullerene Fullerenes are spherical, cagelike molecules consisting of annelated carbon five - and six rings. Wiz: Crona and Ragnarok have held their own against multiple Death Academy students, including Maka, Death the Kid and Black☆Star. In contrast, in order to engulf the moon, Crona's sonic waves must've reached over two hundred seventy-five decibels. Eddie Brock is kneeling in front of an altar in a chapel lit by very faint candlelight. Boomstick: Yeah, he was the coolest rival ever. Boomstick: Ragnarok used to be your run-of-the-mill transforming weapon person, until Medusa melted him alive in Black Blood. Depressed because Snake can shake nearly a mile wide ships with a punch? They've had their shit kicked in plenty of times, and their hardened Black Blood can only block so much. Eddie looks back, and a black goo wholly covers the body of the journalist as he walks towards the Black Blood partners. He had none at that point, which is what you reference. Wiz: Though more akin to a screeching Banshee on LSD. Lol Bruce would EMP him then one shot him and then go on to fight tougher opponents like Scarecrow. Let's go with that. Boomstick: Oh, God. Wiz: And Crona's shown even greater feats of strength as well. Wiz: Don't be silly, I only use actual guinea pigs. Boomstick: Normally, this just makes people feel sorry for themselves, like Wiz on Tinder. Venom struggles to break free but Ragnarok keeps the grab on hold, while Crona panics. Boomstick: Yeah, Crona matching Black☆Star's speed makes for a pretty clear difference. As a teenager stealing his dad's car, he accidentally ran over and killed a child. Man, that's dark! Popup: While different methods or examples could be implemented to measure Crona's Black Blood flooding a city, all still outperform Venom. @eredin12: That doesn't appear to be a Shockwave to me. The symbiote is shocked at this outcome. Batman isn't Deathstroke. Wiz: Even then, Medusa's plan ultimately succeeded. Drops of green goo cause the pair to turn around and look up where Venom is clinging to the ceiling. Snake consistently isn't worth much to consider to Bruce in a up and up fight beyond his gear. Wiz: In its exile, the symbiote underwent a number of misadventures which firmly shaped its personality. A 3D parody animation featuring a futanari Supergirl with Wonder Woman by Amusteven. Boomstick: Damn, no wonder Venom's so messed up in the head. Two more swords appear with arms formed from Black Blood. He's survived Ghost Rider's Penance Stare, he's strong enough to toss a tank hundreds of feet up, and fast enough to take down Spidey 2099, who once caught Mjolnir while it was moving two thousand times the speed of sound. Given the visual distance Black☆Star traveled, the kilometer unit is the most likely to apply. Even Bruce himself would admit that him vs a Metal Gear should be a mismatch. And big ass needles. Faced with the prospect of losing her kingdom, Cleopatra herself committed suicide on August 10, 30 B.C., by allowing a poisonous snake to bite her and her two handmaidens. Part of Medusa's great experiment included bonding Crona to a weapon, much like the Meisters of Death Academy. Boomstick: Venom, the lethal symbiote and Spider-Man's best frenemy. He'd just EMP it and that'd be the end of it. Boomstick: Looks like Venom just got Ragna-rocked! @goldie_pegasus: Agreed, and yeah Ocelot would humiliate Bruce. Why? Caffeine A stimulant found in drinks and used in pharmaceuticals. You gotta stop with this. This monster could only be defeated and sealed away by the God of Death. eh fair enough. To be honest Batmam probably isn't taking out a Metal Gear even with the Batwing and Batmobile. I could go on about how Batman has defeated high tiers with gear and knowledge as well, except I could find better feats, like him besting Amazo. Venom: We are the darkness, we are your nightmare, we... are... VENOM! Â© 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Wiz: Eh, if you are unfamiliar with the world of Soul Eater, prepare yourself, it's...different. Any codice-based powers, such as Ben Grimm's physical strength, are likely not permanent. Lol. He pursues and lands hard rapid strikes before dragging them back up into the air. Wiz: But with the power of friendship, Crona ironically wound up defeating the Kishin once and for all. But if he doesn't wanna pop them like a fun balloon, he can just take over their body like a creepy puppet master. You ever seen Death Note? Calcium hydride Calcium Hydride is a cold-trapped â¦ What the hell is wrong with that moon?! Both also have connections to godlike beings (the symbiote race was created by Knull whilst Crona was made as part of a plan to resurrect Kishin Asura). I've already explained how Snake did it via chaff grenades and focusing on the radar. The use of Screech Delta obliterates Venom and Eddie's body, leaving behind two souls; one black and grey of the Klyntar and one brown and yellow of Edward Brock. LoboGuara5bruxaria/My Favorites Death Battles, Protagonist vs Antagonist themed Death Battles, Anti-Hero vs Villain themed Death Battles, symbiotes really need to stop picking fights with pink-haired anime characters, Danny Phantom VS American Dragon Jake Long, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Battle Royale, https://deathbattle.fandom.com/wiki/Venom_VS_Crona?oldid=1124108. Even Bruce himself would admit that him vs a Metal Gear should be a mismatch. Solid Snake, real name David, also known as Old Snake, and briefly known as Iroquois Pliskin, or simply Snake, was a former spy, special operations soldier, and mercenary.Possessing an IQ of 180 and fluent in six languages, he was known as "the Man Who Makes the Impossible Possible" and his exploits made him into a living legend among the military black ops. @professorrespect: I don't know about him being able to cause Shockwaves with his punches. C60 Fullerene Buckminsterfullerene is a spherical shaped allotrope of carbon discovered in 1985. Think of it like hooking an electric guitar up to an amp. Venom's mouth is seen in place of Ragnarok's mouth, sticking his tongue out, which has a bit of green ooze on it. Solid Snake (Japanese: ã½ãªããã»ã¹ãã¼ã¯, Hepburn: Soriddo SunÄku) is a video game character and one of the main characters of the Metal Gear series created by Hideo Kojima and developed and published by Konami, being the protagonist of a set of Metal Gear games which comprise the second chronological part of the series (commonly designated as fans as the "Solid Snake era"). The vines ensnare and pierce Venom, trapping him for Crona to run all three of their blades through him. He extends his tongue to grab Crona by the leg before dragging them and Ragnarok for a ride upwards. Welcome to our community. I mean besides fact that it is a DC character? The Kishin meister stands alone alongside their partner with a grin of pure madness. The deafening soundwaves free Crona and slightly effects Venom, who is effected enough that he peels back to expose Eddie's back. Snake wouldn't be fodder to him or vice versa. Boomstick: And Raggy has that Black Blood control, too. With Ragnarok glowing, they unleash a wave of concentrated sound that streaks across the floor towards their opponent. Wiz: Long story short, Eddie was fired from his job, divorced by his wife, and disowned by his father. As Crona gathers themself, they see Venom, who has formed his own demonic wings, charging straight for them with a bladed limb at the ready. Boomstick: Eddie really is the best pal Venom could've found. @professorrespect: Batman isn't strong enough to use an MG Railgun, The reason Snake can use it like he does is because he is superhuman, Bruce can't defeat a Metal Gear with some grenades. After years of scheming, Crona absorbed the power of Asura and became a Kishin. Now Crona can turn their entire body into goop, and the slightest touch can inflict Madness. That thing's messed up. Well, no, they actually became a horrifying monster with all of Spider-Man's powers and then some. Wiz: Despite their name, Death Academy wasn't exactly a fan. Enough to fill over six billion Olympic swimming pools. Wiz: Although Venom does not possess the Spider-Sense that allows Parker to react in microseconds, he can still keep up with all the usual Spidey gallery. Popup: Even compared to Spider-Man's reaction speed and Spider Sense, which are somewhat superior to Venom's abilities, scaling to Black☆Star still matches up. Especially with a pilot in it as Batman won't kill. Wiz: Kid once flew from Nevada to Egypt in less than a minute, and Black☆Star is even faster. This time it attaches the sword to a wall. Wiz: And Crona, the deadly Demon Sword from Soul Eater. Venom quickly responds with more attacking tendrils. The track for the fight is "Madness Envenom" by Brandon Yates. ", Both battles end with the last line of dialogue being "I hate you.". Boomstick: Venny for sure wasn't surviving that. Wiz: Somewhat. Are we sure this episode is rated "E" for everyone, or do we need to start blurrin' stuff? @professorrespect: Dude I'm gonna assume you don't actually read Batman comics because of the arguments that you are making right now. Ragnarok, back in original form, snatches both souls and opens his mouth to devour them both in just one bite. Venom was reprised by Adam Wennick, Crona was voiced by Sarah Anne Williams and Ragnarok was voiced by John Van Doren. DEATH BATTLE! batman isn't as fast or as skilled as the people ocelot fails to tag so im not sure what you mean. Two brains for the price of one! But it would be entertaining to watch. Physics and the size of the weapon make it pretty obvious as to why Snake can use it the way that he does. Boomstick: And I'll bet next up, Marvel decides they're magic maple syrup people from Asgardian IHOP. Not really. While trying to uncover the identity of a serial killer, he blamed the wrong guy. Popup: The Venom symbiote likely absorbed the codices that comprised the Legion symbiote. Anime Uma Thurman was such a fangirl, she figured, "Hey, why don't I make my own Kishin?" This is the 23rd Protagonist VS Antagonist themed episode, after, This is the seventh Anti-Hero VS Villain themed episode, after, This is the twelfth Anti-Heroes themed episode, after, This is the sixth episode where Boomstick makes a Captain Planet joke, after, This is the second episode to have its track cover be made in Blender, after, The battle takes place in a church, referencing where both characters debuted in their respective stories (Eddie first bonded to the symbiote and became Venom at, During the battle, Venom quips, "We are the ones hiding under your bed, teeth ground sharp and eyes glowing red! Codinome "Snake" Os primeiros jogos da série Metal Gear (Metal Gear e Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake) se focam na rivalidade entre o protagonista Solid Snake e seu comandante que tinha virado inimigo Big Boss.Esta rivalidade serviu como base da história de Les Enfants Terribles, introduzida em Metal Gear Solid, onde é revelado que Solid Snake é o clone/filho de Big Boss, junto com â¦ The same day he published his article, Spidey caught the real killer, who lived right next door to the dude Eddie blamed! Venom: Ah, lucky day! They stab Venom as he just recovers and deliver a slashing whirlwind combo. Probably Batman, but Snake has some really awesome high ends that don't just involve scaling. So they kicked the poor slime ball straight off the planet. But over the years, things kinda calmed down a bit. Boomstick: It's always nice to have a best friend attached to your hip, like me and my shotgun leg. Generally snake's feats are far more grounded than the nonsense in that game. ", referencing the lyrics to, This is the fifth episode where the loser was still in the land of the living after losing, as both Eddie's and the Symbiote's soul was still around until they were devoured by Ragnarok, after, This is the fourth episode where the loser has their soul devoured, after, The episode's release date is October 5th, 2020, the battle was likely planned to commemorate the release of. Wiz: From that point on, Crona and Ragnarok were two halves of the same person, the meek and tortured child firmly attached to their loud and brazen weapon. If you give Batman the same gear as Snake he'd do it just fine. "Who Would Win" is a podcast that debates battles between fictional characters from the worlds of Comic Books, Sci-Fi, and Fantasy. With two hands together, they seize a single sword and blocks the attack, sending the symbiote back who only cackles in response. Maybe he isn't as fast actually. (Wiz strummed the guitar, producing Ragnarok's screech, stunning Boomstick in place). You know, that kinda sounds like something you'd do, Wiz. Ugh, I hate needles. He won't be able to evade a Metal Gear for more than 8-12 seconds in an open space. And what I said was GENERALLY snake's feats are more grounded than what is seen in twin snakes. Assuming he even knows how to use one on the same level Snake can. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. She and Crona ended up becoming good friends, until they weren't...sort of...eh, it's complicated. But I don't remember him causing any shockwaves with his punches. Boomstick: Which, by the way, that precise control of the Black Blood totally meant Crona could push out any of Venom's attempts at being a puppeteer. Not even Nick wanked Snake that much. Which is impressive enough. @goldie_pegasus: .....Yes he is lol. (*Cues: Wiz & Boomstick - Brandon Yates*). Kojima also never said that if he did not make it its not canon, that is something someone made up, in fact, Kojima was heavily involved in Twin Snakes as you can see in the link i posted above, on the second page, a post made by Tony, you can read all about it there, Tony completely debunked that misconception about Kojima not considering it canon, that is in fact why he chose to use Twin Snakes for Metal Gear 4, further making clear that it is canon since he considers it canon if he did not, there were many other things he could do instead of using Twin Snakes for it, it was choice. The kishin-to-be shakes him off and swiftly impales him on one sword before sending him back down with three wave projectiles, each one hitting the symbiote. I almost don't blame him for becoming a supervillain. Boomstick: Well, more like Kishin absorbed Crona, but close enough! Yes he has some outliers that are over the top but consistently he is portrayed much closer to peak human overcoming his more powerful enemies through stealth, skill, tactics and wiles. (Wiz pulls out an electric guitar, much to Boomstick's surprise). Wiz: With this weapon at their side, Crona set out on a quest to become a Kishin, which required quite a lot of homicide. loved metal gear. His shapeshifting, camouflage, and multitude of weapons kept Crona off guard. But okay, cosmic sludge made by alien Satan. Boomstick: Man, these symbiotes really need to stop picking fights with pink-haired anime characters! Especially a piloted one. Ragnarok quickly wakes them up in his own less-affectionate way, by smacking their head. Wiz: Despite it all, Eddie and the symbiote have proven they're far more than the dark legacy the Klyntar were intended for. For him that's like a 2/10 fight. Boomstick: Wait wait wait, bullets are a genetic trait? He proceeds to fire shots of Klyntar ooze at his targets. Truly a positive effect on people everywhere. Wiz: It's incredibly powerful, causing internal damage to foes and making Ragnarok vibrate to increase his cutting power. @eredin12: batman gets put to shame in comparison of h2h and technicall skill next to liquid ocelot let alone snake, honestly. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. The mouths on each sword release their devastating Scream Resonance inside and the symbiote succumbs to the effects, before all three swords are swung, unleashing an extremely powerful wave of sound into Venom point blank. At night. The combatants are a person bonded with a symbiote and a pink-haired anime character. In response, the lethal symbiote then unleashes a flurry of fanged tendrils and traps the Black Blood users into a cocoon, despite their attempt to leap out of the way. Snake is more superhuman than Deathstroke. A sudden eruption of Black Blood bursts out from Crona's neck and from outside the church, both combatants are launched into the night sky while the dark fluid flows and covers the ground. As the symbiote finishes his monologue/taunt, he notices that he is now surrounded by writhing thorned vines composed of Black Blood. But in terms of skill he is absolutely up there with them. However, he fails to do more than pierce Crona's skin, as drops of Black Blood fall to the floor. They can yank poor Crona around like a puppet. One of these amorphous symbiotes was Venom. mouth?! Wiz: And it's our job to analyze their weapons, armor, and skills to find out who would win... a Death Battle. Boomstick: Buckle up, it's all gloomsville from here. Which erm, doesn't imply he can't use it at all, lol. @professorrespect: I don't know about him being able to cause Shockwaves with his punches. Boomstick: Crona may be a pawn, but they're a badass! But I do remember these older versions of the characters actually causing the thing they were fighting on to shake. Venom gains the advantage and knocks Crona to the ground. @mee09: I mean that is literally how shockwave looks like, look at the moment their fists bump, its not DCEU Superman level shockwave or anything but its a small visible shockwave nonetheless, @professorrespect: Batman has high end feats that would allow him to win 2/10 against a Metal Gear with those things. Popup: While Venom has resisted Ghost Rider's Penance Stare, it does not necessarily mean he's immune to all psychic related attacks and would resist Crona's Madness Wavelength. You seriously think he doesn't prep for dealing with giant robot mechs? But one time, he convinced a bunch of other symbiotes that life was meaningless, and they killed themselves. A regular guy can barely fire a shotgun if he isn't used to the recoil. Recall that Venom did gain a notable resistance to sound attacks, so we needed to determine if Crona's sonic waves were great enough to effectively harm him. Popup: Venom gained some undefined ability increases from the Kylntar hive mind. Plus, while symbiotes have a severe weakness to high pitched sound and heat, he's developed resistances to them. Boomstick: All of which increased Crona's abilities, especially the Black Blood. The wavelength of Crona's "Mad Blood" specifically causes violent psychosis. Wiz: While he may be tougher to take down then most other symbiotes, Venom never fully overcame his weaknesses. Wiz: Eddie and the symbiote held their own with versatility, but Crona and Ragnarok had them beat in destructive power, blistering speed, and an arsenal that could take advantage of Venom's key weakness. Boomstick: You know those gremlins who shattered every window in ten miles with a screech attack? If you really think Batman can't do that, then I can't really say much else.